Pied Piper Mod WIP Discussion

[Kagz]

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Changed this thread to the Piper stuff, will re -release the cacti at a later date.

[Kagz]

Honestly, I think the spikes are fine, and make them less cartoonish, a problem many drawn cacti suffer from.... and remember, I spent a lot of time in the Southwest.

Yes the one without, does look different.
Well you should know your cactus then, considering.
Lets see what Daroot thinks, as he will probably be the only other person to post.

Ok to save making a new thread, i am going to ask a question here.
As you know i have been out of the Morrowind scene for some years.
What i want to know is: Is there a mod made yet, that allows the player to play a musical instrument ?
I know that there are some mods that have Npc's playing stuff, but its the actual gameplayers char
that i want to be able to play a pipe/pipes.
So do you Neil or Daroot, know if this has been done and if so,
where i can get hold of the stuff to check it out.?
I have searched everywhere but all i keep finding under various links,
is Dongles Instruments, but they are just for decoration.

This idea of the player playing the pipe/pipes,
is central to the mod that i want to make.
I can do it without the actual pipe playing,
but it would be so much better if i could do that.

One more thing, if i am going to do this mod,
i will be looking for more advice/knowledge,
as i plan it to contain stuff i forgot how to do years ago
and a few things that i dont really know how to do,
but i am sure you scripter dudes do.

[neildarkstar]

I think there is a "Minstrel" mod that allows that, but DARoot would be the one to know. He pretty actively promoted it though it wasn't his. As a matter of fact, he gave it such a glowing review that I abandoned my own pale attempt in that area...

My effort allowed the player to equip a lute, and even bash someone with it as a weapon, but there was no animation for strumming. It didn't look particularly convincing in any case.

EDIT
After some memory diving and searching the files I haven't opened since my hard drive crash, I found it..."A Bard's Life". You can check it out here:

http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/viewtop ... =50&t=4391

[Kagz]

Thanks i will check that out now.

Another question if i may.
I am trying to create a new magic effect and i can get the effect tab
and change stuff around for existing effects, bu i cant find a way to do a New.
Right click and it does nothing, no button for new/create new.
So i cant change the existing ID and create a new.
I can only find the tab under Gameplay/ Magic Effects,nothing else.
So do you know where i should be looking.?

[Kagz]

Ok i checked that mod but its only a lute, which isnt what i am looking for.
I want something that is put up to the mouth or looks kinda like that.
In saying that tho, i may have found something thru the link you gave me,
i have got it now and i am going to check it out, we shall see.

[neildarkstar]

Sorry, creating new magic effects is beyond me. I seem to recall that Beth limited or restricted the ability to make new effects, and that left everyone scripting various effects attached to old ones.

[Kagz]

Sorry, creating new magic effects is beyond me. I seem to recall that Beth limited or restricted the ability to make new effects, and that left everyone scripting various effects attached to old ones.

FFS thats a shame lol.
So you cant even change the ID on an existing one ffs.
I wanted to make a new one so that i could make it cheap,
in repect to Spellmaking a new spell.
When i make a new Spell, it costs fuc..... thousands to use it ffs.
Even if i reduce the range etc to min which is no good for me,
it still will cost the player a fortune to use it.
I need the player to use it a lot, even if you are Nevarine,
it would break your bank after a few spells.

[neildarkstar]

You can set cost (magicka-wise) to whatever you want by unchecking the auto-calc box on the spell. The cost of purchasing it from a mage is a different thing I think. If you want to make it available to the player at a certain price, you can use the addspell function in dialogue or script. I'd be glad to help with that if you wanted.

[Kagz]

You can set cost (magicka-wise) to whatever you want by unchecking the auto-calc box on the spell. The cost of purchasing it from a mage is a different thing I think. If you want to make it available to the player at a certain price, you can use the addspell function in dialogue or script. I'd be glad to help with that if you wanted.

Yes i tried that but it still costs 16931.25 lol.
My Area, Duration and Magnitude must be far too high.
I need the spell to cover a big area tho,
and i want it to last for a little while.
Not sure about the magnitude thing but i am sure its too high too.

Heres, what i have got and its only got one effect added to it.
Probably totally wrong as i have never attempted to do any of this stuff before.

[Kagz]

I should really say what i am trying to do and then you may understand better, what i hope to achieve.
Years ago when i didnt know anything about modding, i wanted to make Pied Piper mod,hehe
So thats what i am trying to do now, as working on the Rats for Superkitten has brought it all back to me.
I want the char to play a pipe and rats come running, loads of rats, the player then can move on
and the rats will follow, thats why i wanted the spell to last long.
Then you just kill the rats whenever and go looking for more rats.
You get a job of sorts as official ratkiller and get paid a bounty for each rat.
You travel all thru the game and kill rats everywhere.
Lots more and more involved, but i think you will get the idea i am trying to do now.